Washington Post: Gun Free Society — and T&A Counterpoint

Doesn’t it sound logical? Doesn’t it sound safe? Wouldn’t it make sense to learn from other developed nations, which believe that only the military and law enforcers, when necessary, should be armed — and which as a result lose far, far fewer innocent people than die every year in the United States?

Doesn’t it sound communist? Doesn’t it sound very unsafe? Wouldn’t it make sense to learn from other nations in history that gave up their guns and suffered massively when only the military and law enforcers, were armed — and which historically resulted in tens of millions of innocents losing their lives and liberty?

Yes, even saying these words makes the NRA happy. It fuels the slippery-slope argument the gun lobby uses to oppose even the most modest, common-sense reforms. You see? Background checks today, confiscation tomorrow.

Yes, even saying these words, “gun Free Society” makes the Liberals happy. It fuels their slippery-slope argument that every gun must go and leave everyone defenseless is the best policy. To oppose even the most modest, intentionally mis-named “common-sense” reforms means that you are a crazed, idiotic, barbarian…and probably a Christian, too.

And yes, I understand how difficult it would be. This is a matter of changing the culture and norms of an entire society. It would take time.

Yes, you are not bending to the liberal’s altering of the entire society. They are changing the culture and trying to make their remake the norm.

Every time there is a mass shooting, gun-control advocates argue again for legislation. But almost every time, opponents can argue that this shooter wouldn’t have been blocked from buying a gun, or that this gun would not have been on anyone’s banned list — and so why waste time (and political capital) on irrelevant restrictions?

Every time there is a mass shooting, gun-control alarmist politicize the tragedy and argue again for legislation that does nothing about the crime, but advances their agenda. Every time, gun proponents note that any shooter of this or past similar crimes wouldn’t have been blocked from buying a gun. Alarmists always seem to point to a rifle and call it by some scary, invented name, like Assault Rifle or Military Style Rifle. Nope, imaginary titles for ordinary civilian firearms that may cosmetically look like military weapons, does not make them military grade. And they always forget to mention: Why did the shooter stop shooting? In Every Single Case it was because someone with a gun came and either shot them DEAD or they took their own lives when confronted with others who had weapons. Only a gun in the hands of a good guy stops a gun in the hands of a bad guy.

As we’ve seen over the past 15 years with same-sex marriage, such deep cultural change is difficult — and possible. Wyatt Earp, the frontier mentality, prying my cold dead fingers — I get all that. But Australia was a pioneer nation, too, and gave up its guns. Societies change, populations evolve.

And people are not immune, over time, to reason. Given how guns decimate poor black communities every day — not just when there are mass shootings, but every day — this is a civil rights issue. Given how many small children shoot themselves or their siblings accidentally, it is a family issue. Given the suicides that could be prevented, it is a mental health issue. On average 55 Americans shoot themselves to death every day. Every day!

Source: Washington Post

Jackpot! First, over double the amount white people are killed with than blacks every year. Check the numbers! The main black communities that are “decimated” by guns happen to be the ones with the strictest gun controls…like Chicago. Check the numbers and facts.

Guns as a civil rights issue? Only because liberals drum a constant racist and activist agenda into the community. Yes, over two thirds of all gun deaths are suicides…you manage to hide that. “Suicides can be prevented” by taking away guns? Take away guns and they will still kill themselves in increasing numbers and just as frequently. Teens in depression kill themselves. Will it stop or even slow down? Is it a mental health issue? If so, liberals do nothing about that except turn the sick lose onto the streets. Cars always kill more people than guns. Ban cars? (oh, that’s right you are attempting that). Myriad ways to kill ones’ self still remain: overdose, knife cuts on any artery, step off any high structure, step in front of any public transit mode, fall into bodies of water including bathtubs, the list goes on endlessly. Will they still die? Yes. Will additional people die because they cannot defend themselves? Hell, yes.

The Supreme Court, which has misread the Second Amendment in its recent decisions, would have to revisit the issue. The court has corrected itself before, and if public opinion shifts it could correct itself again. If it did not, the Constitution would have to be amended.

The Supreme Court has clearly read correctly the 2^nd Amendment for over 200 years. No need for changes or revisiting. And the propaganda verbiage does not work here. And no public opinion does not shift. Guns sales are up greatly and so is NRA membership.

It sounds hard, I know. But it’s possible that if we started talking more honestly about the most logical, long-term goal, public opinion would begin to shift and the short-term gains would become more, not less likely, as the NRA had to play defense. We might end up with a safer country.

There are strong arguments against setting a gun-free society as the goal, but there are 100,000 arguments in favor — that’s how many of us get shot every year. Every year 11,000 Americans are murdered. Every year some 20,000 kill themselves with guns.

Without guns — with only kitchen knives at hand — some of those people would die. Most would still be living.

The biggest lie is reserved for the end. Five times more people died from knives than did from so-called assault rifles. Here are actual numbers from the 2015 (that is this year thus far from 1,200 daily sources) Gun Violence Archive project:

• Total Number of Incidents 40,111 – that just shootings.
• Number of Deaths 10,110 — only one in four actually dies
• Number of Injuries 20,566 – only half are injured
• Number of Children (age 0-11) Killed/Injured 559 – one half of one percent.
• Number of Teens (age 12-17) Killed/Injured 2,016 – over 2/3 are suicides
• Mass Shooting 265 — a very small number, tragic, but this in not a reason to ban guns
• Officer Involved Shooting 3,371 – you know who causes this. Not the police.
• Home Invasion 1,717 — A reason to keep guns!
• Defensive Use 916 — look at that! 3 times the number of those killed in mass shootings. A reason to keep guns!

The real numbers do not lie, like you do, Mr. Hiatt.

So, every argument used by Mr. Hiatt is a lie or a fabrication or a twist of reality.

To quote him: “Maybe it’s time to start talking about the most logical way to save their lives.” That would be to leave guns alone and deal with the people issues.

I believe the term “cold dead fingers” refers to the empty hand of the defenseless populace who had nothing to fight back with when the evil people came upon them.

You liberals are responsible for the dead in the gun-free zones. Guns SAVE Lives.

How many more people in Oregon would have died if someone with a gun had not come to save them? How many more would have been saved if someone with a gun had been there to stop it right away?