In the latest assault on gun ownership, California passes an ammo permit fee where residents must pay $50 and submit to a background check.
If the check is passed, their name is placed on an electronic list of those eligible to purchase ammunition. If a person’s name is not on the list, they can’t buy ammo.
The California Senate passed a bill in late May that would require gun owners to pay a $50 fee simply for the right to buy ammunition – a free that will be used to administer a background check. The California Department of Justice then would determine if the gun owner has a record that would prevent the purchase of ammo.
In March Guns & Ammo magazine ranked California 47th in its list of best states for gun owners, ahead of only Massachusetts (48th), New Jersey (49th) and New York (50th). (Arizona ranked first, Vermont second and Alaska third.)
The bill, SB53, advanced to the Assembly, where it passed a committee in early July.
If liberals want to derail the right to bear arms and ensure that common citizens cannot afford to defend themselves, the cost-prohibitive purchase ammo fee might do the trick.
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The great ammo shortage of 2013 is still in full swing. Many store shelves remain relatively empty and demand has driven prices up in locations around the country. Between ammo grabbing by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the California ammo permit law, gun owners in the West Coast state may soon be entirely out of bullets.
Making it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to obtain guns and ammunition may only increase the growing crime rate in the nation’s most populous state. High taxes and laws infringing on freedoms have prompted thousands of California residents to relocate elsewhere, Texas in particular.
The $50 ammo permit bill was but one of several gun bills passed by the Senate. Another bill, SB 374, outlawed “large-capacity” magazines (over 10 rounds) and detachable magazines. It passed the Senate and currently is in the Assembly. The Assembly passed a bill, AB48, that requires the California Department of Justice to notify local law enforcement officials if someone purchases more than 3,000 rounds of ammunition within a five-day period.
California state Sen. Tom Berryhill, who voted against the bill, said requiring an ammo fee would “do nothing to stop criminals from purchasing ammunition.”
“These restrictions – like most of the gun legislation we are seeing here today – won’t do a thing to stop crime,” he said, according to CNSNews.com. “They will only hurt the law-abiding citizens like hunters and sportsmen who, for the record, contribute millions to the state’s economy.”
Here’s how the ammo permit bill – if it becomes law – would work: Prior to gun owners purchasing ammunition at a local store, they first must pay the one-time $50 fee and be subject to a background check. If they pass, their name is placed on an electronic list of those eligible to purchase ammunition. If a person’s name is not on the list, he or she can’t buy ammo.
Buying and manufacturing semi-automatic rifles which can accommodate detachable magazines will now be illegal as well. Any California citizen who currently owns such a weapon must register the rifle with state officials.
All the anti-Second Amendment laws will do is cost California gun stores and ammo retailers business – potentially creating employee layoffs in the process. Gun-owning residents simply will opt to buy their ammunition online and venture into a bordering state to fulfill their needs. The semi-automatic rifles portion of the law will do nothing to deter crime, Second Amendment advocates say. As Indiana Boone County Sheriff Ken Campbell demonstrated in a video that went viral, any size magazine can be emptied and reloaded (by any level of shooter) quickly. Thus, a villain with several five- or 10-capacity magazines can still kill a multitude of people in a short amount of time.
Surviving Doomsday author Richard Duarte, who also is a Miami attorney and firearms expert, said there is a bill in the Florida legislature “that would make it illegal for individuals to purchase ammunition unless they had completed a state-approved anger management class.” Violations could result in at least 60 days in jail and up to one year, he said.
“Have we all lost our minds?” Duarte asked. “And what kind of idiots are we electing to public office? How can any rational person look at this pending bill and think that it makes any sense at all, or that it would have any sort of positive impact? If it’s not already obvious, it will soon become painfully obvious that the average citizen has to start paying attention and taking a more active role in holding elected officials accountable for their actions. If we fail to do this, there will be a time, in the very near future, when we will look around and not recognize the country we live in.”
In May, California Attorney General Kamala Harris certified legislation which mandates that all new semi-automatic handguns utilize stamping technology, which would provide identifying information on bullet casings. It will be required on new semi-automatics, Harris said. According to KABC-TV, the law requires semi-automatic guns to stamp the gun’s make, model and serial number on each bullet. The law is being challenged in court by the Second Amendment Foundation and the Calguns Foundation.
Gene Hoffman, chairman of the Calguns Foundation, called the new law part of an “incremental ban on firearms.”
Said Second Amendment Foundation Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb, “It is clear the intent of anti-gun lawmakers is not to regulate firearms but to ban them via increasingly restrictive legislation.”
Signs like this one have been popping up in the yards of California gun owners: “My neighbor doesn’t like guns, so I promise not to use mine to defend him.”
At this point, a poignant slogan born out of frustration is about the only recourse pro-Second Amendment Golden State residents have in the fight for their gun rights — unless they can afford to move. The desire to not have Ted Nugent living next door has been expressed by some anti-Second Amendment activists there. The short-sightedness of such an argument may become tragically clear if the “gun free zone” folks are faced with an intruder at their door. I would much rather have a Ted Nugent type living next door instead of a helpless victim who could not help protect my family during civil unrest. A smile and a cold glass of lemonade will not dissuade a drug addict or gang member during a search for an easy target — but my Ruger handgun would make a lasting impression.
You Americans are fools for allowing SOB to be in any office within your government. Here’s the way it should be idiots.
If you are anti-gun you are in fact anti-American therefore you are automatically disqualified to hold any position in the land, public or private rendering you unemployable or qualified for any and all entitlements / government subsistence of any kind for any reason, ever. In conjunction with this minor penalty these domestic terrorist minions are to have their US citizenship nullified, retirement and all assets confiscated and immediately deported to some socialist country of their choice with no possibility of return to the US for any reason.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
@nvrpcforever, that sounds good to me!
I totally agree, and that’s why I’m living in Arizona, I can order as much ammo as I want to, and I can buy ANY GUN OR GUN’S I CAN CARRY, and take my new toys home RIGHT NOW. I really feel sorry for you gun owners who stay in that Looser COMMUNIST STATE. All my ILLEGAL CALIFORNIA GUN’S I own are Wells and Safeway in the Great state of Arizona. I just might go buy a twin fifty- round magazine for my AK-47, AND MY TWO AR-15′ S, and one is a ghost gun. So if you want your freedoms move out of California, I still have a home there but All my toys aren’t in California. Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha
I am a California gun owner. I have a State-issued card that allows me to buy gun; I obtained the card after mandatory testing and training on using guns and ammunition. My question: Why do I need to get approved (again) to buy ammo for guns I was approved to buy?
I’m hoping for the same hunting license exemption as there is on rifles… If not, 7 years to retirement and I’m already looking at 100 acre parcels in Southern Idaho. Nothing more portable than people with money, the state does an excellent job of chasing us out.
Because liberalism is a mental disorder.
Because it is a tax
Very good question. One I can’t answer. I do have a reply sort of to your comment. I live in AZ. about 3 miles from Needles. Although it’s not required I have A CCW permit. Going through all the background checks I went through to get it. I don’t have to go through a background check to purchase a firearm. I fill out the paperwork. 5 years later they destroy it.
Because you live in California and they can collect $50 from you.
YOU DON’T! THE CERT. YOU HAVE IS GOOD FOR HANDGUNS AND LONG GUNS
THERE TRYING TO PREVENT HANDGUNS FROM BEING SOLD WITH OUT MICRO STAMPING. MOST OF THE GUN MNUFATUERS REFUSE TO CHANGE TEHER TOOLINDG AND SPEND THE MONEY. ANYTHING COLT, CAN’T BE SOLD IN CALIFORNIA. TARUS, ONLY CAN SHIP REVOLVERS , NO SEMIAUTOS. SAME WITH SMITH AND WESSON. SOME OF THERE MICE XDS RE NOT MICRO STAMPED SO THEY CAN’T SEELL THEM ONLY THE 4″ XD AND THE M&P COMPACT ANS THE SHIELD. NP GLOCK GEN 4’S. ONLY FOR LAW IN FORCEMENT. THERE WIDDEING AWAY AT OUR HANDGUNS ONE BT ONE , BECAUSE OF THE MICRO STAMPING , THAT CAN BE REMOVED WITH A NCE POLISHING DREMIL. PLUS CHAGE OUT YUR FIREING PIN. JUST PLAIN BS!!
White people, leave Cali to the mexicunts and come to Arizona. Hurry!!
More white people holding guns in Arizona?
Get ready for school shootings people
ARE YOU CRAZY!! Let those commifornians drown in there own stupidity.
We don’t want your liberal cancer in Arizona.
Already here. although I never came from California. However. I don’t care what color ar national you are. As long as you ain’t a liberal come on over.
so even if I have a valid California firearms safety certificate that I need to buy a firearm, I will now also need a separate document to buy ammo?
Yes, that is intended for the government Nazi’s to require to see your papers. More than one.
For some jerkoff to stop you in the street demanding to see your paper just wouldn’t do.
no!! you now have to pay 50.00 for permission to buy ammo for the gun you own!!! ha..ha..ha…. good old California!!
Basically, what the State of California has done is to force lawful gun owning citizens to pay a one time tax in order to buy ammunition, upon which we are taxed mightily already.
I think we will find more and more Californian’s choosing online purchasing of ammo as well as hoarding of ammo in order to make sure we have enough when the SHTF!
And tell about 40% of us that the other 60% thinks we are criminals. With 340 million guns in the US in private hands and over 1 trillion rounds of ammunition, if we were a problem, it would be self-evident.
Can we (Californians) buy ammo online after the first? I can’t but large capacity clips online once I fill in my Cali address…
Only problem with buying ammo online in Kalifornia is that it can no longer be shipped directly to you, it must go to a licensed ammo vendor who MUST by law charge you a fee…..and ensure you have an ammo permit. I’m going to still buy online, then have it drop shipped to a friend in Nevada….Screw the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia
I’ll just buy my ammo in Arizona. Go there often 🙂
That kind of attitude gets no one anywhere. As long as you are doing fine that’s okay? That’s the kind of attitude that got these people elected in the first place. Selfishness.
get caught and it’s 20 years in jail for gun trafficing
Interesting. What about reloaders? Will we be “registered” and forced to log our case, bullet, and powder purchases?
No…I think I’ll just take a pleasant drive over to Nevada (where sane people live) and buy all I want. No sales tax for California, no registered ammo, loss of business for California small business types.
My guess is that before it’s over they will make us reloaders attempt to qualify for a ammo manufacturing license and then deny each of our applications by putting so many regulations on it like not being able to reload in a residential area or some other b******t that it will make it impossible to qualify. Or make us apply for a hazmat license in order to buy and keep/store or use powder and primers. As has already been said, if they cannot find a way to completely break the second amendment they will force us to use our guns for paper weights. I would also guess that restrictions for Californians to purchase ammo and/or reloading supplies online or from out of state and transporting back to here will be attempted eventually. There is already parts of Ca that ammo cannot be shipped to.
I was thinking the same thing… I don’t “buy” my Lapua or .300 WSM, it’s several dollars per cartridge, I reload that stuff.
The permit is only for “loaded” ammunition. Reloading components are not included. Yet.
Another useless law. How many criminals are going to obey this? Only idiots can’t see the stupidity of this. It’s put in place to disarm the law abiding person leaving citizens at the mercy of criminals. I hope the NRA can challenge the constitutionality of this “tax.”
Hi yes who said these people have a brain! The bad guys do not follow the law!! So what do you do noe! The ones who make up these dumb laws would sing a different tune if a gang banger shot one of their love ones! And he had now ammo because of this dumb ammo law!
This criminal won’t obey this law.
One word for anyone stupid enough to still be in Komifornia like myself!
RELOADING!!!!
Ive been doing it for several years now and the law doesn’t affect the components.
Also this article is a scare tactic as well even if unintentional.
Ammo is not scarce right now and its September. I can go to the store and buy what I want.
Complete AR’s and parts however are.
Do yourself a favor and take that 50 bucks and use it to buy reloading equipment and stay of the gov list and don’t register your firearms. They don’t know who has what now and after you don’t register they still wont know. Just look how many didn’t register during the first ban in the 80’s and their still running around. Don’t let fear get the best of you and move out of Komifornia as Im in the process of doing right now.
what california does best. take our rights and sell them back to us.