Sweet Cakes by Melissa, the bakery renowned for standing for one’s religious beliefs, is refusing to pay the $135,000 fine levied by the Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian.
The gay couple who refused to take their wedding cake order elsewhere, filed suit against the Kleins, when their religious convictions about gay marriage hurt the feelings of Laurel and Rachel Bowman-Cryer. Read more on page 2.
Why does race ALWAYS have to be brought up when it is not even a racial issue?? Also, why can no one ever answer the simple question of why it’s OK to deny access to a restaurant because of a dress code or sport jacket policy…but not OK for these bakers for their own reasons? I keep saying that I don’t think what the bakers did was RIGHT. But as PRIVATE business owners, if they want to deny access to their products they should have the right to.
First thing people jump to is segregation, blah blah blah. Personally I think it’s a conundrum of sorts. The couple shouldn’t feel the need to force these people to do something if they feel so strongly against it (and shouldn’t want to give them money anyway)…and the bakers shouldn’t ‘discriminate’. Either way, you have two people on different sides of a fence…trying to force their OWN way of living onto the other side. Both sides are wrong in my opinion.
But it’s OK. You guys can keep wasting your time trying to make me look like a bigot or whatever word of the week we are going with. 😉
Good for them! I will stand with you!
it’s amazing how ignorant most of the commenters are here about the facts of this case.
the bakers are not being fined for refusing to bake a wedding cake for lesbians.
research what it’s about. then spout.
GIVE THEM C**P.
God Bless them. They do not owe anyone money for exercising their God given right of association .
Ummm. You have to follow the law and use due process of the system. Refusing to follow the law and refuse based on your religion exposes you as the bigot.
Crystal I will ask again for you to cite chapter and verse where jesus says anything about homosexuality…or specifically same sex marriage or providing food for a same sex marriage?
Oh and that “love the sinner hate the sin” was never said or suggested by jesus…EVER. It was a sentiment originally credited to Augustine and later revised by Gandhi.
Not to mention the whole idea of love the sinner hate the sin is the complete opposite of jesus’ teachings. It’s not your job to judge others or call them sinners…you are simply to love thy neighbor. If you want to hate and judge sin it should be your OWN sin.
When you suggest that you would be doing god’s will if you denied services to a homosexual couple you have no scripture to back you. You are simply proclaiming your disapproval of gay marriage and wrapping it in religion for protection. And in that case the government is not forcing you to sin…the bakery CHOSE to operate a business in a state that had anti-discrimination laws. They made a choice, and then they broke the law. Perhaps they should not have opened a business that was going to “force them to engage in sin”.
“The laws of man can NEVER rise above the laws of God.” In a country with a secular constitution and freedom of religion that isn’t true. The Constitution trumps all gods…you know…since there is more than one. You can’t suggest that your god gets to trump the constitution any more than a muslim can say their god can….that’s what’s known as a theocracy and thankfully we do not live in Iran.
I appreciate your suggestion that I do some more reading, but I am quite well read. Yes you have cited the Social Compact Law, and the Constitutional law as you interpret them, but religious businesses that try to discriminate are still being fined for breaking the law? Why is that? Because the law does not support your position. You are correct when you say that a judge doesn’t make it moral. It has nothing to do with morality it has to do with the law of this country. In this case, though I disagree with the amount of damages awarded, Sweet Cakes willfully broke the law and were rightly punished by the state.
BTW…not really sure why you felt the need to share the definition of tolerance, but suggesting that I never question authority or just follow along is ridiculously ironic…especially since you are religious and I am not….thanks for the laugh 🙂
Good for the bakery owner. We have to many cry babies today. That’s just so stupid to say you got damaged because someone hurt your feeling because they don’t agree with your sinful lifestyle.. It makes me sick!! I would never pay them anything..
James Gwara – too funny.
Freedom FROM religion too there Jimmy boy!! And anti-discrimination laws are very real and very enforceable as well. So if you don’t want to have to sere everyone equally? Don’t open a business up to the public. Simple as that.
Christians need to stand up and together for their Religion.